The Digital Fad

I talked with two women this week about film. One, I was buying a roll of
slide film at a drug store and the woman said she had a digital but the card
was now full and she didn't know how to print them out with the printer her
kids bought her. The other was cutting my hair and said she didn't like the
lag time (I told her to try turning off the display) but said she still had
to fiddle around printing them out and felt it took as much time as dropping
them off at the developers. I'm wondering that unless they put WI-FI in all
digital cameras which will allow people to walk past their printer and print
their photos, if this digital thing will start to fade away? A lot of
people that tell you how they can just print out their photos are not really
doing it. They are saving them for when they have the time. I'm not saying
this is true in all cases. So those that write back saying their 90 year
grandmother prints them out are not really making a point about all the
"soccer moms" that don't have the time for printing out and sorting out 1000
photos. This is a problem that the camera manufacturers will need to look
into if the digital fad is going to fly with the 20-55 female that has
better things to do. What say you?

Ric Trexell

Re: The Digital Fad

Vouching for every drugstore in the *world* is even more impressive.
Of course, he obviously thinks that only one country means anything...


Chris Loffredo

Re: The Digital Fad

You can vouch for every drug store in the country? Wow, that's
impressive.
As recently as a year ago I used to buy rolls of 24 exp Kodachrome at a
particular Raley's supermarket when I still lived in California. Where
they got it, and why they stocked it, I don't know, but not even B&H
carried 24 exp rolls. It wasn't expired, either, and none of their
other stores in the chain carried it, as far as I could find.
The same Raley's also carried 100 speed film, while the only "serious"
photo store in the same town wouldn't carry anything slower than 400.
They claimed it was a waste of their time, and the customer's time, as
400 was as good as anything slower. Print film, they did carry slower
slide film. They went out of business, eventually.
Just because it doesn't fit in your experience doesn't make it not so.


TheDaveŠ

Re: The Digital Fad

Same here: Of course I know who my family members are and can (often)
tell which decade it is by the clothing style.
But most of the people (some of which could well be important artists)
pictured with my relatives are unknown. *One day* I might take the
trouble to run them by art experts - but I have many such *one day*
projects...
From the same source (a singing aunt involved with art), I have many
reel-to-reel tapes and of course no player. At several points, with the
hassle of dealing with the estate, I almost threw them away. Again, *one
day* I hope to rent or borrow a reel-to-reel tape deck (which speeds?)
and digitize them.
I'M sure my Aunt never imagined such tapes becoming obsolete or
difficult to play back.
On the other hand, the photos, some dating back to the early 1900's, are
all in perfect shape.


Chris Loffredo

Re: The Digital Fad

Chris Loffredo <me@privacy.net> writes:
By which time I hope they bother to write some comments on the pictures.
At least, who's who and about what time and where and on what occasion
they were taken.
I've inherited some absolutely fabulous 50+ years old b&w pictures.
Only problem is, I have no idea who most of the people in them are and
what the places are, and no-one alive seems to know.


Toni Nikkanen

Re: The Digital Fad

To be discovered years later, by which time they have become important
historical & family documents.
The pictures on cards, CDs and hard disks will just be part of the "old
computer junk" which will eventually either be thrown away or given to
Goodwill...


Chris Loffredo

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I really don't see any concrete problem with the ease of getting prints
from digital. Just drop the memory card off at a photo store, come
and pick the pictures up the next day. Just like film.
I think the fad part is the whole home printing business. Most people
think it's a great idea, but never seem to get around to doing it.
More, it's actually more expensive than having them done at a lab, at
least if you expect quality that looks like a real photograph. Of
course, most people with "better use for their time than fiddling with
photos" don't care about quality but anyway.
(Personally, I dislike printers. They'are always getting stuck or in
need of being fed something or need cleaning or break or... I am very
happy to "outsource" these problems to a photo printing business. Besides
a home photo printer that can deliver photo printing lab quality for
20x30cm prints is likely to cost an arm and leg. And I don't have much use
for smaller prints, probably a carry-over from the time when I was myopic,
or something.)
If someone postpones getting prints until "they have the time and
energy for it", then maybe the pictures weren't all that
important. Had the same pics been on film, yes, they would have been
printed (after sitting inside the camera for 0-3 years), but then
maybe quickly browsed once and then forgotten inside some shoebox.


Toni Nikkanen

Re: The Digital Fad

It's no harder to drop off a digital card then it is a roll of film and most
hold more pictures than film ever would. The main complaint I here is
shutter lag, which is really bad on some older P&S digitals and still is on
some new ones.
--
Stacey


Stacey

Re: The Digital Fad

I call BS. Drug stores don't sell slide film anymore. I couldn't even find a
roll of 100ASA print film at ANY drug store on my recent trip. All they had
was "Kodak MAX" or fuji 400. I had to look up a camera store to get some
100 speed print film in 35mm.
--
Stacey


Stacey

Re: The Digital Fad

This is sort of like ATM machines, when they first came out many people
over the age of 60 or so would not go near them, but in a few years
just about everyone got used to them and it was no longer a big deal.
I now see elderly couples going up to the print kiosks and selecting
which prints they want and how many of each. From what I have seen it
seems people are adapting pretty fast and without a lot of pain. There
is even a mode where you can tell the kiosks to give you a 4 x 6 print
of everything that is on the card, for those who liked it the old way
where all the photos get printed out.
For me getting prints has never been easier, I simply up load the
prints I want to Costco and they are ready in an hour. No longer do I
need to make a trip in to drop off the photos and a separate trip to
pick them up.
I am sure there are sill some people shooting film simply because they
are worried about the complexities of making prints from a digital
camera. But just like ATM machines in time people get comfortable with
the technology.
Scott
Yeah....I can still remember taking my check to the bank building late one
night only to find, (to my horror) that the deposit slot was no longer
there, and there was a message saying, "Please use ATM machine located
at....." I learned to use it pretty fast......


William Graham

Re: The Digital Fad

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This is sort of like ATM machines, when they first came out many people
over the age of 60 or so would not go near them, but in a few years
just about everyone got used to them and it was no longer a big deal.
I now see elderly couples going up to the print kiosks and selecting
which prints they want and how many of each. From what I have seen it
seems people are adapting pretty fast and without a lot of pain. There
is even a mode where you can tell the kiosks to give you a 4 x 6 print
of everything that is on the card, for those who liked it the old way
where all the photos get printed out.
For me getting prints has never been easier, I simply up load the
prints I want to Costco and they are ready in an hour. No longer do I
need to make a trip in to drop off the photos and a separate trip to
pick them up.
I am sure there are sill some people shooting film simply because they
are worried about the complexities of making prints from a digital
camera. But just like ATM machines in time people get comfortable with
the technology.=20
Scott


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