The Digital Fad

I talked with two women this week about film. One, I was buying a roll of
slide film at a drug store and the woman said she had a digital but the card
was now full and she didn't know how to print them out with the printer her
kids bought her. The other was cutting my hair and said she didn't like the
lag time (I told her to try turning off the display) but said she still had
to fiddle around printing them out and felt it took as much time as dropping
them off at the developers. I'm wondering that unless they put WI-FI in all
digital cameras which will allow people to walk past their printer and print
their photos, if this digital thing will start to fade away? A lot of
people that tell you how they can just print out their photos are not really
doing it. They are saving them for when they have the time. I'm not saying
this is true in all cases. So those that write back saying their 90 year
grandmother prints them out are not really making a point about all the
"soccer moms" that don't have the time for printing out and sorting out 1000
photos. This is a problem that the camera manufacturers will need to look
into if the digital fad is going to fly with the 20-55 female that has
better things to do. What say you?

Ric Trexell

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I'm always glad when people reply to my posts. In this case I roughly
counted 22 replys. I should clear something up about my post. I wasn't
implying that we would eventually return to film as some seemed to think. I
myself use film and then scan it with my Epson 2450 Photo scanner and email
them or burn them to CD's. What I was talking about is that some people are
turned off by this printing at home or going to a store and printing them at
the kiosk. My Wal-Mart has more one time use cameras in the film section
than film. While I can't hardly find slide film, I can also count on film
being available nearly any place I go. In rural Wisconsin where I'm from,
some towns are only 300 people. If they have a gas station, they will
probably be selling film. They are not yet selling digital cards. What I
was saying is that for the digital cameras makers to really take over, they
are going to need looking at addressing the problem of printing pictures
easily. I have family that take a lot of digitals and when I ask to see
them, they have not printed them out yet but will be getting to it shortly.
Sometimes that is a two year wait. I feel I have the best of both worlds, I
have slides that will last for years and also I have the digital copies that
are easy to send out. In 40 years if my CD's are not readable, I will still
probably have slides unless the house burns down. My thinking is why bother
taking photos if they are not going to be there 40-50 years from now. I
welcome the digital world but just wonder if a lot of good shots will never
be seen. Ric in Wisconsin.


Ric Trexell

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Exactly.....And, I think of these stupid cell-phone pictures the same
way......They will get better and better as the technology improves, and
they are still keeping photography in the hands of the average Joe. In the
long run, they will be good for the photographic art.


William Graham

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But I think the ability to email pictures around cyberspace to your friends
has given photography a boot in the ass.....People ARE interested in doing
this, and when I email a picture to my non-photographer friends they really
take notice, and become interested in returning the compliment. Perhaps,
with cell phone pictures and the like, the quality will be rather poor, but
even poor pictures are better than no pictures at all, and pretty soon,
people will want better quality, and the manufacturers will work to give it
to them.


William Graham

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Boy, I can sure identify with this......I can't even remember when I am the
one who took the pictures....I wish that I had at least written the date on
most of mine. What burns me up is when I look at the back of a print and the
processing lab has about 20 or 30 digits printed there, and there is no
date.....What the hell good are they?


William Graham

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I call BS on your BS. ;-)
I can buy Fuji Sensia and Kodak EliteChrome at the Rite Aid down the
street.
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Rob Novak

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It was difficult for me to make the transition from film to digital. I,
like many, sold all my film gear and converted to digital and I do like
using my digital gear. When using my digital gear I spend many days at
the computer processing and printing my shots. Much more time is pent on
the computer than in shooting. In many instances I also make family
photo CD albums for family members. It seems since I've converted to
digital I spend more time processing and printing than I do shooting.
I have supplemented my digital gear with film cameras and going back to
occasionally shooting film. Now when I use film I drop my film off at
the local lab and in about a hours time view and select photos from
proofs and have the lab finish off the printing. It would seem I spend
more money using the lab but when I look in my used ink cartridge bin
and see all the $30 + cartridges then couple that with the bins of
papers I use for printing; software costs including plug-in's, and
considering the humongous hours I have spent at the computer processing
and printing, I think lab costs can be justified. I spend more time
shooting when using film and shooting is what I really like to do. I've
been learning that there is a time for using film and a time when
digital may be the tool to use. In some instances, I have used both at
the same time. Though I have been using film I still like using my
digital gear when I need to shoot and process quickly. Digital gear may
be best to use at family gatherings when prints can be almost
immediately had using a portable printer. However, I must say printing
without proper precessing is not the best thing to do. For my photo
preferences I like using film as well as digital and it would seem film
and digital works best for me. Frankly, I feel if I were to use Cosco,
K-Mart, Wal-Mart, or any one hour processing center to process my
digital shots, I might just as well return to shooting film. The
processing side of photography is just as important to me as the
shooting side would be.


Nick c

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Exactly.
Kodak made a fortune selling just such photos to millions of consumers.
"Memories," I think was their advertising slogan.
And, you know, there is absolutely nothing wrong with millions of people
taking millions of technically-deficient shots of the milestones of their
lives.
I recently inherited 500 family photos of my parents, uncles, aunts and
grandparents--taken around WWII with a Kodak box camera--and I cherish them
more than anything I've ever taken with my better equipment. George Eastman
turned photography from an obscure craft into a hobby for Everyman, and we
owe him a debt of gratitude for that.


Jeremy

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I think that Kodak has done a lot to make the process easy for the casual
photographers like those you mentioned.
Their docking stations, coupled with their EasyShare software, make it
pretty easy to upload their images to Kodak Gallery for printing. Now they
are even offering pickup of the prints at local stores, rather than having
to wait for them to arrive by mail.
Their PerfectTouch processing is perfect for the person that doesn't want to
bother tweaking their shots in editing software. Just select the images you
want, click to upload them, select the quantities and sizes, and it is
billed to your credit/debit card and the prints arrive in a couple of days,
corrected to the same quality that you would have gotten from machine prints
back in the film days.
The hardest part is the initial setup of the docking station, software, and
opening an online account. Once those things are seen to, the process can't
be made any easier.


Jeremy

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loaded/unloaded a roll or taken it in to the 24 Hr. joint. Had I bought her
a digital instead, would she have cared or noticed? The meter gets fooled a
lot, but most come out OK. She's happy with that. I believe the vast
majority of people know next to nothing about photography and couldn't care
less. As long as there's something to stick on the fridge, the world 's a
happy place. Bob Hickey


Bob Hickey

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An intelligent analysis, Mark. Thanks for posting.


Tony Polson

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