The Digital Fad

I talked with two women this week about film. One, I was buying a roll of
slide film at a drug store and the woman said she had a digital but the card
was now full and she didn't know how to print them out with the printer her
kids bought her. The other was cutting my hair and said she didn't like the
lag time (I told her to try turning off the display) but said she still had
to fiddle around printing them out and felt it took as much time as dropping
them off at the developers. I'm wondering that unless they put WI-FI in all
digital cameras which will allow people to walk past their printer and print
their photos, if this digital thing will start to fade away? A lot of
people that tell you how they can just print out their photos are not really
doing it. They are saving them for when they have the time. I'm not saying
this is true in all cases. So those that write back saying their 90 year
grandmother prints them out are not really making a point about all the
"soccer moms" that don't have the time for printing out and sorting out 1000
photos. This is a problem that the camera manufacturers will need to look
into if the digital fad is going to fly with the 20-55 female that has
better things to do. What say you?

Ric Trexell


Re: The Digital Fad

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Niceparking@gmail.com


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It's kind of comforting to know that archival gold CD-Rs made in 1706
can still be read. It's just a pity there won't be any CD drives
around to read them 300 years from now.
;-)


Tony Polson


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One of the many many millions of people who either don't know how, or who
ignorantly fail to protect files properly. How many people do you know who
still don't back up their hard-drives?? I know plenty. These aren't stupid
people...they are just naive...or ignorant...or distracted.
Many are the times when only second or third generations uncover and/or take
an interest in family history.
I have slides my grandfather shot that his kids never knew existed. -Not
because they didn't care...but simply because they were overlooked.
I take good care of my images, but I'm the only one in my family who knows
what to do with RAW files.
It's not that it's an un-solvable problem at the personal level (like you or
me), but it IS a problem for the masses...who simply don't (and won't) gain
the knowledge to deal with it.
A hundred years from now, the cases of someone finding prceless images shot
by our generation will be far less frequent...because somewhere along the
line, someone broke the chain of upkeep...or transfer...or decoding...or
file-format-conversion...etc. etc. etc.
It's a real issue many will face.
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MarkČ


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I keep copies of my parent's digital photos, they only have a few
thousand so it is no big deal. So I guess the question I would ask is
who would not maintain their parent's photos when they are gone.
Scott


Scott W


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The key to digital file longevity lies in upkeep, and transition from one
form of media to other higher capacity types as they come available. The
problem: Who has relatives who will continue this after you're dead??
:)
On the other hand...digital has a HUGE safety advantage over film in the
ability to keep PERFECT originals in multiple locations. There will only
ever be ONE negative or slide positive...but with digital, if my house burns
to the ground (as it did when I was a kid, I might add...), my images will
be safe, as I have perfect and complete "originals" on other hard
drives/media stored elsewhere.
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MarkČ


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The ONLY reason I moved to digital was for that reason--to maintain COMPLETE
control of my images from capture to print. Short of your own color lab,
you just can't do that with film. Before digital, I started shooting slides
only...followed by scanning...again, to maintain control.
To me, that is perhaps the bigest benefit to digital. -NEVER handing over
control of the image to anyone. If the image stinks, at least it's my
fault, and not due to some idiot in a lab messing up my work.
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MarkČ


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hundred)
$1.20 each.
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You have to remember that usually any ad will say something like, "when
properly stored". How many people "properly store" their photos? I'm
guessing that very few people will be storing their CD's in a refrigerated,
humidity controlled environment that the CD manufacturers are figuring on.
I want to see how CD's last when stored in the attic, the garage, and the
basement for ten years. That is how many are going to end up. They are not
going to be in an air tight metal container, but rather a cardboard box.
When I see a Kodak ad that says this CD will last 300 years when stored in a
card board box in the basement, then I will say we have something. Until
then, I am not sold entirely. Ric in Wisconsin.


Ric Trexell


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Yes, they give a lovely golden tinge to the images when you hold them up
to the light to see what's on them!


Chris Loffredo


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"AAvK" <Idondodat@wahoo.com> wrote
The information isn't in the gold, the gold is just there as a mirror.
In the early days the plastic backing on the CD's wasn't too good and
folks who lived by the sea had the salt-fog eat away the aluminum in
the CD's: hence the gold. Miami is real big on gold plated door
hinges, bathroom taps etc, but it isn't for the looks.
The information is in an organic dye that has been painted onto the
gold and then burned with a laser. Think food coloring. [This
is a gross oversimplification, but it gets to the gist of it.]
There is no argument that binary data can be preserved for close
to forever. The unanswered questions are:
o Can you find a CD player in the year 2306? How about DVDs,
Blu-Ray, Quad-DVD and the 20-30 new formats that will be
at one time or another _The Standard_ over the next few centuries?
o Will anybody bother sorting through 300 year's worth of
old CD's, playing them back, just to see what is on them?
If you really want to keep images the best bet may be technologies
like cyanotype on papyrus and Pt/Pd.
--
Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio
Darkroom Automation
http://www.nolindan.com/da/index.htm
n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com


Nicholas O. Lindan


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Just think, archival CD-Rs made of sandwiched real GOLD, last 300 (three hundred)
years. They're out there, from a couple companies now, I think about $1.20 each.
Evil... ain't it?
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AAvK


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