Amateur seeking advice

Hi there. This might be the wrong group but it seems like a very good
place to start. I'm a beginner planning to buy an SLR camera in the
next few weeks as I'm going to Canada in September - some of the most
beautiful scenery on the planet. I'd like some advice about the best
camera for someone who hasn't handled an SLR in almost 20 years and
wants to go digital (of course), so any info would be gratefully
received, about cameras suitable for someone nervous at the prospect
but keen to give it a go. Thanks alot.

Fran

Re: Amateur seeking advice

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:15:36 GMT, "Nicholas O. Lindan" <see@sig.com>
wrote:
What's "parity" in this context? Seriously.
"Parity" implies an equals sign but I don't
know what's on either side of it.
The rate of depreciation isn't quite as extreme
as you make out -- check out the ebay
"completed" listings.
I see around 60% depreciation on my 10D
since I bought it... in June 2003.
I see around ** 50% ** on the G2, which is
a year ** older ** (four years old.)
Strange! The P&S is holding its value
better than the DSLR.
rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com


Raphael Bustin

Re: Amateur seeking advice

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:15:36 GMT, "Nicholas O. Lindan" <see@sig.com>
wrote:
It's all leveling off. I noticed the price of Canon 5Ds
just went *up* in the last few weeks. They must be
scarce.
Anyway, the signs are obvious -- there haven't been
any qualitative leaps in digicams or DSLRs for some
time now -- just piecemeal, incremental stuff -- eg.,
cramming more sensels on the same sized die, and
of course more silly whistles and bells.
A bit disappointing, in fact. I honestly haven't found
anything that makes me want to retire my G2. Sure,
I'd like more megapixels, but not at the cost of more
noise.
There's not a lot of downward pressure on the price
of high-end DSLRs. In the P&S market, what I'm
seeing is more gizmos. 8 Mpix cameras that can't
be used at ISO 200. Yawn.
rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com


Raphael Bustin

Re: Amateur seeking advice

"John McWilliams" <jpmcw@comcast.net>
Quite right.
But I was back at the original question:
To me that is 'some types of photography':
casual, for enjoyment, on vacation, not
serious about photography, better things
to spend money on.
If it were my friend or relative I would
suggest a DP&S, at the least suggest he
borrow one for a few days and see what
he thinks.
To me the bang/buck for an entry level ($700-1500)
DSLR for casual use isn't there. But what am I
thinking, this is the land of the SUV ...
I am happiest on vacation with a Yashica T4, a
hiking stick with a ball head on top and a
couple rolls of Kodachrome in my pocket. I'd
be just as happy with a Canon PowerShot Axxx.
Nicholas O. Lindan: the minority opinion.


Nicholas O. Lindan

Re: Amateur seeking advice

Except that for some types of photography, it'll be some time before any
P+S equals a DSLR made within the previous 5 years, even with narrowing
the price gap by upping the $ spent on P+S.
--
John McWilliams


John McWilliams

Re: Amateur seeking advice

"Raphael Bustin" <rafeb@speakeasy.net> wrote
Ok, I jest -- a bit, but not much, what
was the $1500 2003 DSLR? 2/3/4 years to
parity: take your pick. 10:1 depreciation
in 3 years is 7%/month.


Nicholas O. Lindan

Re: Amateur seeking advice

A $150 P&S as good as a Nikon D70?
Where?
Oh ya, you admit you have no experiance with cameras... go away now... you're
lookin' mighty stupid... take your crayons... bye


Carnack@aol.com

Re: Amateur seeking advice

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:47:24 GMT, "Nicholas O. Lindan" <see@sig.com>
wrote:
Surely you jest. The 2004 DSLR would be, say,
the Canon 10D. What current $150 P&S matches it?
I'm seriously curious, since I'm thinking of "updating"
my old Canon G2.
rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com


Raphael Bustin

Re: Amateur seeking advice

Don't forget the option of getting a digital P&S.
My experience has been that 2006's $150 P&S's work
as well as 2004's $1500 DSLRs. This trend will
probably continue, so before dropping $1,500 on
a 2006 DSLR consider that in 2008 you can buy
a $150 P&S that will work just as well.
If you put $1500 in a 5% CD the yeild will pay for
a even-more-state-of-the-art $150 P&S every two
years for the rest of your life.
This view will probably not be very popular...


Nicholas O. Lindan

Re: Amateur seeking advice

Thanks everyone, I appreciate your advice very much. I realised after
I posted my msg that I'd clicked on the "wrong" group, so am doubly
grateful. I was finding all the models/options quite overwhelming and
only have limited time in which to purchase and familiarise myself with
a new camera before I depart mid September for BC from Sydney,
Australia.
Kind regards
Fran


Fran

Re: Amateur seeking advice

I have 2 DSLR's, quite different...
One is the new Sony Alpha100, it's probably better for beginners because you
don't have to dive through menus, there is a dial and buttons to pick almost
everything you need to do. It is very similar to a Konika-Minolta... (now owned
by Sony...) It cost $1200C maybe $1000US
It is a 10 megapixel camera, and comes with an 18mm-70mm lens. (that becomes
27mm to 105mm compared to 35mm film.) It works best for scenery in RAW mode, and
that takes an average of 9 megabytes per foto, so you'll need to bring along
lots of storage, maybe a laptop with a compact flash card reader ... and maybe a
DVD burner.
I also have a Nikon D70, a 6 megapixel camera, which is replaced by the D70s, it
has the same lens size as the Sony, but there is also the D50 and a new D80 is
coming... These vary in size and features, you need to check out the Nikon web
site. The D70 takes great snapshot jpegs, averaging 1.5m in size, and in RAW
they are all about 6m in size. There is also the D200 if you have a few grand to
spare... $2k for the camera and probably the same for a few lenses...
If you want to shoot in the dark with high ISO you will need a Canon camera and
most range in price from under $1000 to about $2000. I don't have one so I can't
comment other then to say they are well received. Look for the Rebel or 20D or
30D.
BTW I'm already in Canada... welcome!


BobF@nospam.com

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