35mm film, how much longer?

I have a D70s digital SLR, but recently I'm finding an attraction to going
back to film. I'd like some professional estimations on how long 35mm film
will still be available, and used in the U.S. Not necessarily main stream,
but still fairly common?
Thanks,
Tom

Tom Williams


Re: 35mm film, how much longer?

Does anyone really believe that all film will suddenly disappear?
I think Kodachrome is on borrowed time, but it seems doubtful that the
owners of those many millions of film cameras out there will all pack it in.
I wouldn't be surprised to see virtually all film being manufactured in the
Third World, rather than Rochester. That has already begun with some Kodak
consumer emulsions (Gold 200 is one that comes to mind). One day our Kodak
and Fuji-branded films may be manufactured under license, but I think that
film cameras will go completely out of production long before film itself is
withdrawn.
Consumers will probably abandon film entirely--at least in industrialized
nations.


Jeremy


Re: 35mm film, how much longer?

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David Starr


Re: 35mm film, how much longer?

I was surprised to see 15 MB scans at $4.00 per roll. That is less than it
costs to get a Photo CD from Kodak--and their scans are nowhere near 15 MB!
These scans may be fine for less-than-critical applications, such as for
making 4x6 prints from slides. Especially if one wants to get scans without
having to go the do-it-yourself route. For $4.00, it might be perfect. If
there is one or two excellent images, they can always be scanned at home
using more dpi.
I'm going to try it. It's been a long time since I shot Kodachrome. In
fact, I always used Kodachrome 25, never Kodachrome 64, so this will be a
new experience for me. And I'll be doing my part to keep Kodachrome off the
chopping block, too.


Jeremy


Re: 35mm film, how much longer?

Yes but normally that extra 45 MB buys you very little in detail.
The bigger question is not how many pixel the scan has but how good of
a scan is it?
For $4/roll I would worry that the scans are not very good.
Prerhaps Jeremy could post a crop from one once he gets one done.
Scott
Scott


Scott W


Re: 35mm film, how much longer?

That's a great price but 15 MB for a 35 mm film scan isn't exactly
high resolution. It's less than 2000 dpi, in fact.
A 4000 dpi scan using 24-bit color is just under 60 MBytes.
rafe b
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Rafe b


Re: 35mm film, how much longer?

The shift toward mail-order photofinishing for film is all but certain.
Frankly, there haven't been many decent one-hour processors out there
anyway. They tended to use cheap enlarging lenses and the ones I tried here
in Philadelphia did not have the greatest temperature control on their
chemicals. Colors were often washed out.
It has always been frustrating for me to have used excellent quality
equipment and fine lenses, only to see the final results look like they were
taken by an inexpensive camera--the kind that are sold in blister-packs. So
I've limited my print processing to only Kodak (Qualex), where there is
courier in-store pickup and delivery daily, and my mail order business has
always gone to Dale Labs (www.dalelabs.com) which still prints optical
prints (their Nikkor enlarging lenses cost over $10,000 apiece!) and has
always given me excellent results, albeit at a price substantially higher
than the one-hour labs. But one gets what one pays for.
I'm going to try Dwayne's Photo for some Kodachrome work. They sell the
film and process it, too. Their web site listed a number of interesting
services, including hi-resolution scans of Kodachrome slides (15 MB) for
only $4.00 per roll.
With today's superior mail options, it isn't the big deal to send film out
for processing that it once was. More people should try it. After a few
rounds, it becomes second nature. If all those inferior drug-store labs
disappeared overnight, would it really have a negative impact on us? I
think that it might actually result in better quality images, as it would
require us to have our film processed by folks that really knew what they
were doing, not by some high school kid.


Jeremy


Re: 35mm film, how much longer?

For me, the real question is: how long will there be quality film
photofinishing and printing? Film will be available indefinitely, but
more and more retailers are experiencing poor returns for the
square-footage they've dedicated to film processing. They can use the
floor space more profitably. And there will be fewer lab techs who know
what they're doing.
Stockpile all the film you want in your freezer. But be sure there's a
lab around that can process it.
-CD


Cardamon Dave


Re: 35mm film, how much longer?

Accord to Al Gore 10 years is all you need to worry about. Buy all your
film now and put it in a deep freezer, it will last 10 years.
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BMW Rider


Re: 35mm film, how much longer?

In my case, I will have to wear out my film scanner to the point where it
would be cheaper to buy a good digital camera rather than get it repaired.
Since it only cost $600, I am sure that this will take several more years. -
(Digital cameras would have to drop a lot in price before they are
comparable to that.)


William Graham


Re: 35mm film, how much longer?

I live in a somewhat better location then, inside the beltline in
Raleigh, NC.
From my house there are two good local camera stores within 10 minutes
walking distance. Both stock consumer color negative, consumer
transparancy and pro film (Polaroid type 55 P/N; B&W, color neg &
transparancy in 35mm 120, 220, and 4x5).
They both also stock darkroom supplies, lighting, all sorts of
accessories, digital stuff AND have fairly good selections of used &
trade in merchandise.
One has a good on-site repair shop (not sure about the other, it's a new
location - I think they have a consolidated repair shop for several shops).
One's reachable in 5 minutes or less on foot, and the other would almost
be if I didn't have to pass a Krispy Kreme donut shop on the way if I
choose to walk there, instead of just stopping on my way to somewhere else.


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