Using hotshoe flash with 135mm lens

Hi, I just picked up a takumar 135mm lens the other day, and I was wondering
if anyone could give me some advice.
The red X on the shutter speed dial is at 1/60 so from what I gather I
shouldn't go above that speed with the flash, but with the 135mm lens
wouldnt that mean I have to use a tripod to keep the shutter at 60?
Any ideas on which is the way to go ?

Michael Yates


Re: Using hotshoe flash with 135mm lens

Or brace your camera against something ...
If the flash is the main illumination, it only lasts somewhere from
1/400 to 1/10,000 second (depending on the unit), and the image is
formed from that, rather than the ambient light. In that case 1/60 is
very hand-hold-able.
But tripods are good.


No_name


Re: Using hotshoe flash with 135mm lens

Hey thanks for the replies Graham and Al. I am using a Pentax spotmatic F.
With a 24mm, 55mm and 135mm takumar smc lenses. I think I dig what you guys
are saying, I will read over your replies a few more times when I'm less
tired.
But thanks a lot, I think you both have summed it up for me enough to work
out what I'm doing. I've got a good grasp of everything non-flash related,
but this flash I have hanging round combined with this new lens I'm thinking
I should give it a whirl.
Thanks again.


Michael Yates


Re: Using hotshoe flash with 135mm lens

"Michael Yates" <mick@hdlac.org.au> wrote in
:
The idea of using the reciprocal of the focal length as a guide for
shutter speed (1/135 second shutter speed for 135mm focal length) is
basically for natural or unassisted light.
When using a flash, most especially where the flash is the primary
source of light, the extremely short duration of the flash illuminating
the scene takes the place of the shorter shutter speed.
In a completely dark room, you could lock the shutter open and walk
around with the camera, and still get a sharp picture when the flash goes
off, since you have the light for an adequate exposure for a tiny
fraction of a second. Rather than opening the shutter to provide the
light to the film, you're simply providing the light itself for a very
brief period of time.
There are some caveats, though. It will depend on the amount of
available light (without the flash) and what kind of flash metering the
camera uses. If your exposure without the flash would be within a couple
of stops of what you use *with* the flash, then you're likely exposing
the film during that entire 1/60 second, and not just when the flash goes
off. In such cases, camera movement may be an issue.
What you're talking about here is one stop, however: using 1/60
second shutter speed instead of 1/135 (or the closest setting, 1/125).
That's not a huge issue. If you're holding relatively steady and your
subject isn't moving, you might even be able to do it just fine without a
flash at all. In most cases (you never said what camera/flash you're
using), you can close the aperture *down* a stop or three, which reduces
the effect of the ambient light at 1/60, and forces the flash to provide
most or all of the exposure.
Hope this helps,
- Al.
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Al Denelsbeck


Re: Using hotshoe flash with 135mm lens

It would depend on the amount of light you are shooting in. If you are
shooting in low light, so that the majority of the light entering the
camera will be from the flash, then you won't need to worry about the
tripod.
For example, if you are shooting 100 speed film, with a flash with guide
no of 20m/ISO 100, with a subject at 3-4m, you'd use an aperture of
F5.6. In typical room lighting, at F5.6 you'd have a shutter speed of
1/2-1/4 sec to give adequate exposure without flash. So at 1/60th, the
image created by the ambient light is 4-5 stops underexposed, so it is
almost negligible compared to the image created by the flash (which is
almost instantaneous). So in this situation, don't worry about your
flash synch only being 1/60th because the effects of blur will be so far
underexposed you won't see them.
If however you are shooting in sunlight and using the flash as a fill,
then you may want to use a tripod, because the image created by the
ambient light will be bright enough to register as blur.


Graham Fountain


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