Digital images viewed on the net compared to what you can expect to see when they are printed

Hi all,
First the digital stuff:
I was wondering if the images that come from the digital source, posted
on the web, are the way they will look when they are printed? In other
words, are the photos seen posted on Pbase and other various photo
sites the actual photo that will be developed or are these photos
showing a compressed version that isn't as nice as the final developed
photo? I would think a person that posts their best in these galleries
would show the best the photo can look like. Then again, if one likes
the 16MB file they have and this is too large to load into website's
database, then the more compressed version must be given (hence, a
poorer quality of look?). I'm trying to figure out what these images I
have been looking at from all sorts of cameras (i.e. Pentax IST, Konica
7D, Olympus E-1, Fuji S models, Canon 20D/5D/1DSMKII/etc., Nikon
D70/D200/etc. etc.).
The next question deals with a similar subject. When viewing the
galleries on dpreview dot com, they have a link to view the "actual
image". This is something like a 3.5mb image in jpeq. Again, much
smaller than say, the Canon 1DSMKII can produce...but they say it is
the actual image or best image (forget what exactly it is they say and
am too lazy to go see;)). Anyhow, are the images they are showing
going to be the ones that you will see when you print them or are they,
too, in a compressed form?
A third question and final question, what will these images that I view
on the web "generally" look like when printed? I know this question is
likely redundant, but all in all, when a pro photographer has their
images on a website for sale, is what you see on the screen going to be
exactly what you will get in life?...or will it look better, different,
worst, etc.?
Just trying to figure out how amateur and professional photographers
get images onto the net and what to expect to see when this image is
printed onto paper and place into a photo album or in a gallery.
Thanks all!!!

Progressiveabsolution


Re: Digital images viewed on the net compared to what you can expect

Maybe it's the same with projected slides & monitor display, they both
have that rich inner glow but only certain shots really look good on paper.


Paul Furman


Re: Digital images viewed on the net compared to what you can expect to see when they are printed

If you're talking about projected film slides, that is another matter
entirely.
Rarely will prints ever maintain the "pop" of a projected film
slide...mainly due to the huge and exaggerated illumination of contrast and
brightness of whites, etc. Projected slides can take on a "glow" that can't
be reproduced short of a backlit transparent print, such as you might see in
a backlit movie poster, etc.
If you're talking about a monitor's rendition of a digital file, though, the
only reason for prints not matching is related more to improper screen
presentations (too bright, too saturated, etc.) and calibration mismatches.
--
Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark˛ at:
www.pbase.com/markuson


Mark˛


Re: Digital images viewed on the net compared to what you can expect

I have had that problem too but he was experiencing the same thing with
slides or projected slides. Perhaps this has to do with the difference
of reflective prints vs monitor or projector or maybe it's just when
culling, you get desensitized with so many images and miss the ones that
really look great (or crappy)... then when it occurs to you to take the
time to print... then you see it in a new light instead of just another
in the endless series.
Or maybe it's just an odd thing the two of us noticed. Nobody else
recognizes this phenomenon?


Paul Furman


Re: Digital images viewed on the net compared to what you can expect to see when they are printed

The likely reason:
-Because he doesn't have a properly calibrated monitor/printer setup...even
though he may think he does.
-Even with proper calibration, there is often confusion about what settings
to use, and what part of your process should control profiling, etc. When
you have a properly-calibrated system...you'll know EXACTLY what it will
look like when printed. I get prints that literally and precisely MATCH
what I see on my screen. If you don't have that control, you are really in
a powerless position, and subject to tremendous waste of time, effort and
money for materials (ink, paper, etc.). You/he can have this control too,
but it takes some information/equipment/careful effort in the processing of
calibration and printing to acheive consistently accurate results.
-M˛
--
Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark˛ at:
www.pbase.com/markuson


Mark˛


Re: Digital images viewed on the net compared to what you can expect

Just a subjective comment. I was talking with a fellow shooter & he made
the comment that you never know which shot is going to look good printed
from looking at them on the screen and I totally agreed. I'm often
surprised. I don't know why this is.


Paul Furman


Re: Digital images viewed on the net compared to what you can expect

Ah, so, I see. Surprised that the mailto:whomeveryouwant.com didn't work
on their web interface. Maybe not so surprised; Google is a very mixed
bag of good and not so good.
I presume that AOL doesn't make any News service, such as Giga or Super
News, available? That'd allow you to use a real news client, fwiw.
--
John McWilliams


John McWilliams


Re: Digital images viewed on the net compared to what you can expect to see when they are printed

AOL doesn't have a newsreader. I was using Google Groups.


Annika1980


Re: Digital images viewed on the net compared to what you can expect

Just one of the quirks of using AOL. On almost any other News reader or
E-mail client, clicking on what Bart wrote brings up an E-mail addressed
to him.
--
John McWilliams


John McWilliams


Re: Digital images viewed on the net compared to what you can expect to see when they are printed

It's (one of) my email address(es) ;-)
Will do that, wasn't sure yours was valid.
Bart


Bart van der Wolf


Re: Digital images viewed on the net compared to what you can expect to see when they are printed

I couldn't decipher that on my newsreader.
Please e-mail me.


Annika1980


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