Saving a selection shape and recalling it

Recently immigrated from Paint Shop Pro X to PS CS2. In PSP X I could
make a selection shape on an image using the Selection Tool, say a
rectangle for cropping, then save that selection shape and dimensions
to a library. I could then open another image, load the saved selection
from the library and perform the function I wanted.
In CS2 I'm having trouble duplicating this. I'll open an image, create
my selection and choose Select>Save selection. I'm then offered the
option to save the selection as the existing document name or a new
document. I've tried saving the selection both as a .psd file or as the
existing document. I'll then open an image and try Select>Load
selection but since the opened image is a "background" and locked this
option is not available. If I duplicate the layer the Select>Load
selection is available but when I try and call up the selection I saved
there is no option to load it. I have been able to do it by leaving the
original image open, opening a new image and then dragging the channel
which contains the selection from the old image to the new image. I
then have to use the magic wand to select the unwanted "masked
area"(?), invert it and then my selection is then visible BUT not
exactly the same.
Obviously there is a simple way to do this but I have done a pretty
extensive search in both CS2 newsgroups and in CS2 tutorials and can't
seem to find a solution. As stated in the beginning this was a 5 second
process in PSP X so I hope I'm missing really basic in duplicating this
in CS2.
As steep as the learning curve is in CS2 I'm extremely happy with it!
Thankfully, the basics of layering, masking and a lot of other
functions are similar enough to PSP X or I fear I might never master
it. Let me modify that...not master but become nominally proficient at
using it :-)
TIA for any suggestions

Desert Rat


Re: Saving a selection shape and recalling it

You can also turn the selection into a path, which you can use on a
shape layer. Those you CAN save for later. Just load the shape you want
from the library.
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Theartist


Re: Saving a selection shape and recalling it

In article <1157502297.085294.307920@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
desertryder@gmail.com says...
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Sorry, but I wasn't clear on that - my bad. Since PS doesn't create a Library
of Selections as some programs, Painter for one, you have to have both
documents Open. When usuing the Saved Alpha Channels, I just open it first,
then my images, whether scanned, created via digital capture, or created from
scratch. Since you are scanning (I assume that you are scanning, though that's
not important, so long as the specs. for the scan are the same), you can set
the size to a constant, then just drag the Alpha Channel, or, if that image is
Open, Load Selection>Document (drop-down). It should come in at the correct
size/rez to be the same with all of your images.
Don't get frustrated yet. You are on the threshold of the solution. You just
need to have the images w/ the Alpha Channel Open, that's all.
Please let me know if this helps and works.
Hunt


Noone@hunt.com (Hunt)


Re: Saving a selection shape and recalling it

I tried your suggestion but the problem is that whenever I open the new
image (one that I have already scanned) I cannot access the Load
Selection option under Select. Even if I change the Background layer to
Layer 0 or just duplicate the existing background layer and am able to
access the Select>Load selection option there is no option for me to
open the saved selection from the image file I saved per your
instructions. The only option available in the Load Selection window
under Document box>Source is the existing file name. No option to open
the selection I saved as i.e. "Crop 1".
I'm obviously doing something very wrong because every response here
seems to indicate that I should be able to open a saved selection from
the Load Selection window but this is what I'm seeing. This is starting
to be very frustating as I really could just open a scanned image and
then apply a new selection and then crop it but I don't always get the
exact same selection dimensions. The ability to have a fixed selection
size would be of great benifit considering I have somewhere around 3000
images to process.


Desert Rat


Re: Saving a selection shape and recalling it

In article <1157492604.704592.57400@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
desertryder@gmail.com says...
One thing that you might want to think about doing, is setting up a blank
image (Image>New, or Ctrl-n) with the size/rez, that you will be scanning. In
blank imgage, make a Selection of the desired size, Save Selection [name
here] and then Save that image - TIF would be fine. It will basically be a
blank Background (italicized) and the single Alpha Channel. All you will need
to do is Open this newly created image and use that Selection from it. If you
have set up the image with regards to Mode, Size, etc. it will be very close.
This is basically what the FX Photo Edges are - Alpha Channels, saved as TIFF.
If you find yourself working with different resolutions, or image sizes, you
can re-size your image (one w/ Alpha Channel) to meet your needs, but you'll
probably find that if you are doing the scanning, everything will conform to
one, or maybe two, sizes. If that's the case, Save_As [different name here]
for the other size(s). I'd choose a naming convention with the image size/rez
in the name.
Hunt


Noone@hunt.com (Hunt)


Re: Saving a selection shape and recalling it

Sorry but that didn't work for me. When I name the document and save it
it still doesn't show up when I open a new document. In addition, the
option to "Load Selection" is not available on a newly opened image
which is just the background image. The option to Load Selection is not
available. Once I change the background layer (by duplicating or
renaming it) then the Load selection is available but the only option
is for the existing document. I cannot access any saved channels or
..psd images from the drop down menu in the Source>Document box.


Desert Rat


Re: Saving a selection shape and recalling it

Thanks for the info Aaron. I'm working with scanned TIFF images
(restoring old 2 1/4" square photos). Your suggestion of dragging the
selection from one image to another seems to work the best for my
purpose which is to create a standard cropping selection. I overscan
the images to include partial borders so I want to create a selection I
can apply to all. I found that if I created the selection as a channel
I would then have to still modify it to get it to the selection size
after dragging it to the new image. Shame there's no way to library
selections but the workarounds are easy to remember and will work as
well even if it takes a bit longer to get there.


Desert Rat


Re: Saving a selection shape and recalling it

Or when you have a selection already highlighted in your document,
select "Select" on the menu, then save selection. You can give it a
name. You can do this for many different selections and all this does
is create named channels, which you could equally have done manually as
well.
Then from within the other document select "Select" then load selection
whilst both docs are open and you can choose which previously saved
selection (channel) you want to load from any of your other opened docs.
I found dragging to be a bit hit and miss between docs.


Tembo@gotadsl.co.uk


Re: Saving a selection shape and recalling it

First of all, saving the selection uses channels, so you need to save
the file in a format that supports channels. PSD is one, TIFF is
another. I would recommend saving everything as a PSD just because you
know you'll get all the features available.
As for using a selection created in one image in a second image, that's
a little bit different. Photoshop doesn't have a "library" of selections
independent from the files they were created in. So, in order to get a
selection from one document to another, you DO have to either drag the
selection or drag the channel from the source document to the
destination document.
Spend some time experimenting and I'm sure you'll find the best way to
do what you need to do.
--
Aaron
"Mankind are greater gainers by suffering each other to live as seems
good to themselves, than by compelling each to live as seems good to the
rest." -- John Stuart Mill


Aaron


Re: Saving a selection shape and recalling it

...
I just tried this by opening an image, making a selection, saving the
selection - gave the selection a name, saved and closed the file, then
opened a new file and the old one at the same time, when I went to the
selection menu in the new image, it gave me the option of opening the
selection from the old image!!


Harry Limey


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