Re: The Zeiss Myth... LARGE SNIP
No, it isn't. A lenses bokeh is what it is, whether you qualify it by
numbers/diagrams of point source light distribution or MTF
curves/photographic image, etc. Whether you like it or dislike _is_ the
subjective part.
It cannot be quantified objectively. To say,
You are confusing good bokeh with bokeh. "Good bokeh" is a matter of
taste, bokeh attributes of any lens are a matter of fact not opinion.
It can.
then we could spot trends between different
Remeber the Leica ASPH vs. their classic (non-asph) lenses I mentioned
as example. Erwin Putts goes on and on about this and so do others so
it doesn't bare repeating here. A google search should bring it up.
As it stands now, we must look at how
And/or look at MTF diagrams or light distribution graphs from a point
source.
Maybe they are better than most other brands. I know my Zeiss (Contax
SLR) lenses have superior color saturation, tonal spread, micro
contrast (though Leica/Schneider lenses may do this attribute better)
and edge contrast. Most _good_ lenses have high resolution. Some have
good (or at least acceptable) bokeh. Zeiss's superiority, myth, reality
or otherwise does not begin and end on just one lens attribute.
They
Though its nice to have a high resolving lens (and I've seen actual
Ektar 25 large blow ups both from Zeiss (Kyocera) at their Javitz show
booth and at a "prestige" camera shop) many lenses (especially "normal"
lenses) can do high res. Zeiss is more than just high res.
They are. They are in roughly the same league for bokeh as the best of
many Leica lenses (especially the non asphs), Schneider, some Pentax
and Olympus lenses, etc. My Zeiss 28 and 16 (if focused closely/used
near wide open) does beautiful bokeh fore and aft, many if not most
lenses tend to excel either at foreground or background bokeh
smoothness, not both.
Once we sweep
If you want steak look at the results from the Zeiss Contax SLR, G
series lens ranges - its too early to tell if the ZF lenses are steak
or hamburger yet ;-).
Speaking of which, some of the Cosina rangefinder lenses I've seen are
quite excellent for bokeh but I couldn't speak of the whole range as
I've only seen a few image examples on the web (my favorites are the
40/1.4 and the 50/1.5 Nokton and the 35/2.5 Pancake? rangefinder lenses
as well as the 40/2 SL (SLR) Cosina lenses. Cosina can and does make
good lenses.
You can always upgrade to the non CZ Cosina lenses and count their
bokeh numbers ;-).
As for me, I prefer experience and appreciation of actual lens results,
not slim sampled number tests. Doesn't matter if youdrink fine Cognac
rated the best on various attributes (scientifically quantified and
otherwise) if you don't have the toungue or the sensibilities to
appreciate the results...
"Faith in numbers"... what an empty pursuit for its own sake.
Give me the steak, sell me the sizzle, but the wrappers with their
ingredient markings will never taste as good as the food itself.
Strawberry Bokeh aji forever!
Live free or die!
Don't tread on me... bokeh! :-)
Thebokehking
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