[SI] - Timing is up

Better late than never?
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/timing
There's still time to get your shot in the timing gallery.
As always
the Rulz and instructions on submitting images are available at
http://si.jlkramer.net/rulz/rulz.htm
A tactless reminder - Due November 7, 2006
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/grace

JimKramer

Re: Jim & Al

I think somebody did...
Ken


Ken Nadvornick

Re: - Timing is up

This is *hilarious*! Thanks for that, Jim. You may be interested to know
that I printed this and taped it to the wall in my darkroom, right next to
my favorite Jack Kennedy inspiration.*
Ken
* On a far less grand scale, this also quite nicely sums up the reasoning
behind my preference for traditional analog photography:
"We choose to go to the moon in this decade, not because it is easy, but
because it is hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the
best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are
willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend
to win."
-- President John F. Kennedy
(or one of his speechwriters)


Ken Nadvornick

Re: Jim & Al

Did somebody say graceful?
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Alan Browne

Re: Jim & Al

I thought I was the only one to build a backlog of the original mercury
cells for my Gossen meters and Canon Q:17 GIII rangefinders. I probably have
10 or so.
I even bought a mint 6x6 camera last night just to be able to use one of
those batteries -- a Yashicamat 124. :)
ken rosenbaum


Ken Rosenbaum

Re: - Timing is up

Two funny/sad stories:
My son has been heavily photographed since the day he was born. He
took his first photograph when he was 8 months. I suspect he just liked
to watch the flash, but he has an eye for composition. He got the idea
very quickly that he could come around to the back of the 10D and see
the picture on the LCD. Almost as quickly he picked up to push the
play button and spin the wheel see all the pictures on the camera. One
day I was shooting with the 7NE, I needed to finish a roll up and
headed for my favorite subject. When I was done with the roll, he
wanted to see the pictures. I tried to explain that this was a
different camera and he would have to wait until later to see the
pictures; and like most explanations to two year olds was it a waste of
time. I finally got frustrated and handed the camera to him and said,
"OK, look at the pictures." He looked at it for a good minute and
then sadly announced, "Broke."
The other story is based around a class he was taking. The instructor
had a Polaroid and wanted to take a picture of him. The wee monster
dutifully poses, waits for the flash and then runs around to look at
the back of the camera. Gets there just in time to catch the photo as
it is falling to the floor, and hands the apparently plank piece of
paper back to the instructor. Followed by an exchange of "Me
see."'s and "Here is your picture."'s until the image started
to come up. Then he had that truly profound look of understanding and
I wished that I had my camera with me.
Every generation is different. I learned how to type so I could use a
computer, he was taught to type by a computer.
I am hard pressed to argue this point with you. Going over to
rec.photo.digital and looking at the galleries of people who ask why
their pictures aren't selling would certainly solidify that rational in
my mind. But I'm glad you left room for a few exceptions to the
rule.
Jim


JimKramer

Re: Jim & Al

Good idea! I have some thoughts for some mandates that I should
mention to Uncle Al and Jim.
I read your story about teaching students photography. What a lovely
story. In fact when I was in grade 7, we had a substitute teacher for
a week. He promised us brats that if we were good, he would show us a
slide show of his work during his travels around the world. Well,
being all of 12 years with big chips on our shoulders, our attitudes
were "who gives a ____!
We were on our best behavior only because the principal's office was
right next door and he was watching us like a pit
bull............anyway, after the week was over, he showed us his
slides. You could hear a pin drop during that slide show, except when a
new pic was displayed on the screen and everyone's "ooohs, and ahhhs"
were heard. I was impressed for life. Your story reminded me of that
time.
Helen


Helensilverburg@hotmail.com

Re: Jim & Al

Thanks, Helen.
I was happy to see your contribution - and *its* contribution to your
conquering of that shyness. A graceful outcome on both counts which will
hopefully lead to continued participation in future mandates.
To be truly "one of the guys," you might also consider submitting a mandate
of your own. It's the only time you can get a valid jump on everyone else.
Ken


Ken Nadvornick

Re: Jim & Al

If the EPA finds out about the Superfund PX625 mercury battery in the
camera, or its 19 other lifetime supply cousins in my freezer, I just
might... <g>
Ken


Ken Nadvornick

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Hi Mardon,
Yep. About a year and a half ago I was asked to teach some seventh and
eighth graders some photography. I chose to have them build pinhole
cameras.
I initially asked them to give me a definition of what a camera was. After
listening to a litany of characteristics that would have done the Bill Gates
wannabes of the world proud, they were stunned to hear me say that a camera
is nothing more or less than a hole in a lightproof box. That's it. Done.
The monk was turned out into the desert...
After paramedics revived them, we built the cameras out of one-gallon paint
cans and used circular b&w enlarging paper as film, mounted inside the lids.
I let them expose and develop their own paper negatives, then contact print
them. (I turned one of the teacher's restrooms into a temporary darkroom.)
I was told later by a couple of the real teachers that several of the kids
had gone home and told their parents that it was one of the best "classes"
they had ever taken. One young lady, I was told, went on in high school to
take a course in traditional photography because of her experience.
Here's a simple web presentation I've left up of the kid's efforts:
http://mysite.verizon.net/kjnadvor/ZLS/PhotoClass.htm
Ken


Ken Nadvornick

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----
Thanks for that, Jim. I did make an effort to cut down of the information
presented. Back in the day when men were men and photography was too, this
sort of info would be of interest to hard core practioners of the craft.
Now days it's just a charming anachronism - except for those few of us
roaming tyranosaurus rex types...
----
If one's processes are calibrated and standardized, then the only
significant things that change are the individual exposures. In fact, it's
not really worth noting anything unless it varies from the standard
significantly. And for the most part those exceptions can be kept in one's
head. (When feasibile, I do use a small voice recorder to keep track of the
exposures and times of day.)
----
Yeah, I know you're right. Sleeping dogs and all. But sometimes I can't
resist when I see such a truly simple thing having been needlessly turned so
horrendously complex. And followed now by generations of younger
photographers who have been conditioned to know of no other way.
Not always, but often enough, I sense an inverse relationship between the
quality and depth of a person's photographic efforts and the number of
transistors in his or her camera. YM, of course, MV.
Ken


Ken Nadvornick

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